{"id":237,"date":"2017-07-03T12:04:52","date_gmt":"2017-07-03T04:04:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/?p=237"},"modified":"2017-07-03T12:04:52","modified_gmt":"2017-07-03T04:04:52","slug":"edward-sanderson-interview-yan-jun-zhu-wenbo-about-there-is-no-music-from-china","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/237","title":{"rendered":"edward sanderson interview yan jun &#038; zhu wenbo: about &#8220;There Is No Music From China&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/232\" target=\"_blank\">\u4e2d\u6587\u7248<\/a><br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\naccording to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.yanjun.org\/archives\/1867\" target=\"_blank\">&#8220;there is no music from china&#8221;<\/a><br \/>\nedward sanderson&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.escdotdot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">blog<\/a><\/p>\n<p>ED: Why these artists?<\/p>\n<p>YJ: first at all i didn&#8217;t want to do it by my own. i thought i had to work with zhu wenbo. he is an experienced organizer and a good musician. one of the low-profile scene which grows after &#8220;no beijing&#8221; and d-22 rock. i&#8217;m not sure how much he and they related to the previous experimental music scene in beijing but definitely it&#8217;s the most interesting sound today. in today&#8217;s beijing zhu wenbo is more active on the field than me.<br \/>\nwe have some common favorite artists on list. but some different. such as zhong minjie. he was almost in silence for 6 or 7 years. i discovered yao qingmei by chance. by a link of her &#8220;internationale&#8221;. in her case she is not really working on music but this piece is definitely about music and i personally have strong empathy with this song.<br \/>\nas we initiated this compilation from the title, a paradox and joke, i&#8217;d like to invite some artists who might be interesting on playing the game. and of course, their works are somehow in-between &#8220;music&#8221; and &#8220;no music&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>ZWB: as Yan said, that&#8217;s right. The plan is, he ask half people, I ask another half, one by one. Most of them are friends (except Zhong and Yao to me), nearby friends, faraway friends, old friends, fresh friends&#8230;.. Not only friends, another reason I ask them is, I trust them. I believe they will have interests to do something based on this subject.<\/p>\n<p>ED: How does this compilation reflect, or differ from what we might normally call the experimental scene in China? Was there a particular feeling (or understanding of the scene) you were trying to give with this collection of artists\/works?<br \/>\nYJ: for me &#8220;experimental&#8221; or &#8220;avant garde&#8221; means react to the reality. when these terms are mainly genres, today, the meaning of be experimental is important. it has to be a reflection or reaction from its own time and environment.<br \/>\nvirtuosity is also something i tried to avoid. and, perhaps, taste.<br \/>\nif you listen to kurt schwitters&#8217; original recording of &#8220;ursonate&#8221; and compares it to jaap blonk or eberhard blum&#8217;s version you will see the subtle but interesting difference between &#8220;ur&#8221; (wild, primal) avant garde and its classified posterities. of course we are in our traditions. but what is the reason we are in this spectrum, not another? this is a tradition which it tries to not be self-classified. some would say john cage is accepted by the mainstream in europe and north america. but is it a success of revolutionists? or just been disinfected and consumed by the bourgeois culture?<\/p>\n<p>ZWB: it close to my aesthetic. The &#8221; normally called experimental scene&#8221;, I have to say, is too sounds like traditional &#8220;music way&#8221;. Or you could say, they are just experimental than pop music. Some of them I don&#8217;t respect; some of them I respect, but I still want to keep a distance.<\/p>\n<p>ED: For you does a compilation have the status of a historical document, or is it about new creations by the artists? I\u2019m particularly thinking of Ake\u2019s piece, which I would say is atypical based my previous knowledge of her work, but presumably represents how her work is developing.<br \/>\nYJ: it&#8217;s not about history but about now. we are still young and don&#8217;t know what we are doing. it&#8217;s a chance we meet and support each other. this is a little statement to say &#8220;perhaps we are not doing music (as you understand) but we enjoy it&#8221;. you know this is a time that romanticism is strongly, globally be embraced by both dictators and consumers. these sounds are small if we don&#8217;t listen to each other. so whatever the artist does let&#8217;s listen to her with heart.<\/p>\n<p>ZWB: For me, the compilation is more like a project, need some time to prepare and finish, step to step, like my solo performance, or band album. Too early and too big words to say &#8220;historical&#8221;. Everything will be as history, good, bad, ugly, shy&#8230; You will find your eternity in your old work.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u4e2d\u6587\u7248<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[59],"tags":[103,96,101,183,182,83,170,184,160,100,82,97,138,181,3,122],"class_list":["post-237","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-59","tag-torturing-nurse","tag-96","tag-101","tag-183","tag-182","tag-83","tag-170","tag-184","tag-160","tag-100","tag-82","tag-97","tag-138","tag-181","tag-3","tag-122"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p7ZIRa-3P","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/237","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=237"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/237\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=237"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=237"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/subjam.org\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=237"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}